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What’s Up With Kylo Ren’s Strange Table Of Ashes?

In honour of this week’s Blu-ray release of The Force Awakens, Entertainment Weekly is investigating some of the film’s lingering mysteries—with the help of J.J. Abrams. For yesterday’s report, they focused on the moment during the interrogation of Rey when Kylo Ren removes his helmet and places it on a mysterious table covered in ashes. Abrams casually explained this mystery during an exchange regarding the film’s deleted scenes. “Sometimes bits and pieces of one scene end up being something that you use in another scene that you didn’t expect,” he said. “That’s always kind of fun, when you realize that something you’ve shot actually has a use you didn’t expect.”

When Entertainment Weekly prodded Abrams for examples, he cited the interrogation scene, explaining that the helmet removal was supposed to occur earlier in the film. However, the real shock is the troubling origin of those ashes. “That table has the ashes of the enemies he’s killed,” Abrams revealed. “That moment was actually shot for, and meant to be used in, the scene where he was talking to the Vader mask.”


Due to the complicated history of Star Wars villains, most fans of the franchise have attempted to humanize Kylo Ren, but saving the ashes of your victims is downright serial killer-esque. At the very least, he could have placed them in a more tasteful urn, not some creepy open-air space that’s vulnerable to every minor gust of wind. For now, this is an indisputably morbid choice, but maybe we’ll learn more when Episode VIII arrives on December 15, 2017. In the meantime, check out Star Wars Minute’s more psychological read on Kylo’s ash collection below.